Newtyle (Original Station.
HATTON INCLINE TO NEWTYLE OLD STATION
(Original Incline Formation)
(Iincludes screen grabs from Google Earth & Google Street Views)
(Update April 2013) Hatton Summit to Millhole added)
Update June 2020.
Newtyle (Original Station.
Old & New lines from Millhole to Newtyle
Newtyle railway layout. (Flash Earth)
Below we start at the remains of the old line where it came down from the new junction and crossed the road at Bulb Park and look at the remains of the track bed and
goods yard and where the line continued southwards to the Hatton incline. After a very enjoyable walk to the area on the 16th April 2010 I have added many new photos,
which have replaced most of the screen grabs from Google Earth and Street View.
Site of the level Crossing at Bulb Park. Looking east. The original line came in left, from north
junction to Newtyle old station , to the right.
Left: North side of Bulb Park ( road). The old track bed met the new station line at North Junction. Right: South side. The track bed is under the houses behind these trees.
Update June 2020: Came across this 1960's photo, taken at the level crossing on Bulb Road. It shows the crossing gate and the tracks leading up to
the station and Bone Mill. The incline is the line of trees going up to Hatton Summit behind the station building. This is the same spot and view as in
the photo above right. Houses now cover the tracks to just before the single platform that can be see up ahead. Commercial Road is quite busy.
(Author Unknown).
View from Commercial Street. If the trees weren't there you would have a clear view up the incline,
virtually to the summit. Hatton Castle is up on the right
Left: The old station building is still in situe, seen here on the left on Commercial Street. The station and sidings remained in use for goods until total closure in the 60's.
Right: The old station north end seen from the gardens now on the track bed.
Newtyle (Old) Station (Map)
Left: North end of Newtyle Old Station in the 60's, with Commercial Street on the right. Right: Taken during the period when the station building was used by a Potatoe merchant in 1974. The old fertilizer
works is seen far left. It was linked to the railway. The crane spindle still stands on it's stony perch.
(Photo by Frank Spaven from the David Spaven collection.)
Check link at: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=29813
Came across this photo on Facebook. I have no idea where it's from or whom the author was. It's an excellent photo of when the goods depot was still in service.
You can see the track at the north end of the depot and the sudden steep rise where it continued up the Hatton incline, albeit the incline had been closed many
years at this time. The central track was used as a head shunt for the Fertilizer works, which you can just see the top of above the wall on the far left.
In coming wagons would have been shunted up to the stop block at the far end and then reversed back through the crossover on the left, that led to another set
of points in the siding that then went into the works. Outgoing wagons would have done the same in reverse.
Left: North end of the station where the housing cuts off the trak bed. Right: The station entrance.
Left: April 2011 and almost from the same spot as the photo above. Right: North end of the station showing where the new houses take over the track bed up to Bulb Park. April 2010.
On the north face of the station building is this metal fixture. Looks as if it had been some sort
of notice board or perhaps a lamp! (17th April 2014.)
Left: North face of the old station. Right: East wall of the old station
Interior of the Goods Depot in 1966 when it was a Potato store.
Proving that it had been so for at least ten years
(Elliot Simpson)
Left: Ruined station building on the east side. Right: The south facing end of the Old station where it went onto the Hatton incline
Left: The south end of the station seen from Knox Close. Looking west. Right: The railway continued across the road and southwards to the summit of Hatton Incline. Looking east.
This is an interesting Now & Then scenario, showing the south end with the goods platform extending to outside the building, where it went on to Hatton Incline.
Knox Close didn't exist at this spot. Left photo by Norrie Forres. Right photo by Brian Forbes.
A 1998 photo by Ewan Crawford. It shows the platform split between the gate and the passenger entrance of the shed. The incline to Hatton is
behind the camera. This is the spot where the present Knox Close has taken over and the road had to be built between then and 2000. It is
more recent than I realized. It's a shame that the platform had to be removed as this spot is simply a cul-de-sac today. Interesting that there
is no fence cutting the siding off and that ground was still open up to the old fertilzer works which would have been to the right where
Ewan took this photo. This is also the spot where wagons would have been coupled & uncoupled from the incline rope.
This brings up the question to whether was "Wire Wheels" at the top and bottom of the D&N inclines as there was on the High Peak
Railway. I would be interested to know as I have found nothing at any of the incline sites to suggest there was. And if not, how was the cable
returned to the engine Houses! Photo from http://www.railbrit.co.uk/index.php
17th April 2014. The building has received a fresh coat of paint all around.
Left: South end of the old station and, Right: West facing wall with vehicle entrance to the station, which had been well used during it's time as a goods depot.
(On Commercial Street).
Left: The old station building from Knox Close. Right: The station approach road and sidings. The Goods Shed stood inside the fence just to the right.
The wall was 8-10 feet high along the parameter of the goods yard.
Left: This dead end was once the clear-way up to Hatton Summit (See B&W photo and comments below). It was also the loco head shunt until total closure and
was where wagons & coaches were attached and detached from the incline cables.
Right: The old station site from Flash Earth. Running north to south. The Chemical works stood on the right where the new houses now stand.
The house is built on the site of the old Fertilizer factory.
This 1966 photo was taken from the north end of the station (as above right) and looking up the incline to Hatton summit. and of Hatton station and
engine house. Hatton Castle is seen on the left. They are actually standing on Knox Close, which didn't exist at this spot at that time. The white house
is seen in my 2010 photo below right. (Elliot Simpson).
Left: From the spot explained above. Looking down to the old Station, hidden by the trees at the bottom. The Incline as it passed Hatton Castle below
a narrow over bridge. Right: Northwards from the same spot with the white farmhouse. The large tree is just in the frame on the right.
Left: Site of where the incline dropped below the bridge at Hatton, by the castle (To the far left) Right: Northwards the track bed is gated due to cattle grazing. You should ask
permission to walk up and upon the incline. Luckily I met the farmer when I arrived here.
You can see the natural curve of the trees that helped me pin-point the B&W photo above.
Cattle Feed stacked on the old track bed
Beyond the bails of Cattle feed you start to see and feel the steepness of the gradient
Looking south towards Newtyle Old Station. Hatton Castle on the left.
Half way up the north facing incline. Much of the railway walls are still evident. Note the wire tensioning
post on the left.
Left: The wire tensioning post is in excellent condition, albeit the cogs are well seized up.
Right: The railway's stone walls are quite extensive towards the summit.
One of the many drains bult in the area after the line closed that takes water from a reservoir to Dundee that David Martin explains in the new section following below.
It is always difficult to remember that the inclines all closed back in the mid 1860's and that many man-made, and natural changes have taken place since.
Left: Elliot Simpson's 1960's view. Right: My own 2010 view close to the same spot half way up the north facing incline. N.B. the housing on the right
Three parts up the incline. Right: Close to where the Engine House stood.
Left: Nearing the summit Right: This is where you have to get down the bank on the right and walk around the area to where the Station House Stood.
Left: Looking southwards to Newtyle. Close by the Engine House site. Right: Approaching the summit, where the station house stood.
Site of the engine house.
POSSIBLE ENGINE HOUSE REMAINS (17th April 2014)
At this spot you can see the remains of a stone building. This may be the remains of the
engine house or simply a heavy retaining wall.. I couldn't get over the fence to have a
closer look. (17th April 2014).
Hatton station house in 1966. (Elliot Simpson).
Left: The Station House site in April 2010. A sad sight and such a waste of a very nice house. Right: The site of the station house is now fenced off for grazing. The steep road that the engine house and station
staff had used comes up from Hatton Farm on the left, with Newtyle way below.
Hatton Station & Engine House (Map)
At Hatton Summit, where the incline drops down the south facing incline to Millhole and Auchterhouse. This is as far as I went on this walk, although I was very tempted to
keep walking towards Millhole. Perhaps another time! The view on the right is virtually the opposite view to Elliot's B&W photo below..
Left: Ramblers getting onto the old incline track bed in 1966. (Elliot Simpson). Right. Almost the same spot. 17th April 2014.
Part way down the incline, overlooking Newtyle, with the Castle jst ahead and the church to the left. (16th May 2010).
On the way down via the farm road the 1 in 12/13 incline is quite obvious.
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Update April 2013 Hatton Summit to Millhole
On the 19th of April 2013 I managed a walk from Dundee (Downfield) to Hatton Summit via the new line but taking in the incline track bed from Millhole to Hatton Summit. From Auchterhouse
I walked the road as far as Millhole farm and attempted to get permission to go through the farm up to the old track bed. However there was no one available and I simply walked around the
small house at the farm site and was able to get onto the old track bed from there by climbing over the gate that blocked the way. I had considered that it was a simple walk from here to the
summit but what I had not realized that there had been a shallow rock cutting at this point and quite wide before it leveled out again and headed for the Summit. The rock cutting was interesting
and I wondered why it had been built so thoroughly. I had read about a siding on the line called Pitnappie Siding and as Niall Ferguson mention that Pitnappie siding was close to Hatton summit
I took it that this was the spot. AS it turned out I was wrong and that the siding was further south by Pitnappie farm and where the level crossing was on the single-arch bridge at the junction with
the Couston road.
These photos are in reverse to the order taken as had walked northwards towards the summit but they are placed in order to run from the summit towards Millhole.
From Hatton Summit towards Millhole. Two days before there was a day of heavy rain and the ground is still very wet and bogy.
A spring just south of the Hatton House site towards Auchterhouse. According to David Martin "The red brick 'water drains' were built in the 1880s and mark the line of the pipe
which takes water to Dundee from the Litrathen Reservoir. It is dated to at least ten years after the incline ceased operation. Similar brick structures appear every few
hundred meters along the pipe line".
From the Spring towards Hatton Station Site at the summit
From this point the off side railway fencing has been totally removed up to the summit
About halfway between Millhole and Hatton Summit.
Leaving the north end of the cutting the line curving off towards the summit.
Reverse view to the above. The stone reinforced wall where Elliot and the rambler's had climbed up onto the track bed in the 1966
black and white photo above.
Note the embankment of the newer divergence line to the right.
The embankment of the newer track bed as seen from the rocky cutting. The track bed has just left the north side of the
three-arched bridge at Millhole and is curving towards where it crossed the B954 then taking the long horseshoe curve
into Newtyle for the new station site.
On the left the farmer has built wooden steps too and grom the field. Elliot and the ramblers wouldn't need to struggle up
the embankment today.
Reverse view from the above. Notice the S-bend formation running through the shallow cutting. It would appear that the local farmer wouldn't sell his
bit of land to allow for a straight run, which looks to have been reasonably feazable .
Another fence across the track bed and the first sign that there is a cutting up ahead
It still looks has a very railway-like appearance. Note the present wooden steps down to the fields on the right.
The track bed does appear to be much wider through the cutting but if this has simply been a single line I am wondering why
the track bed appears to widen for the cutting.
An interesting rock cutting. The bare rock suggests that perhaps some blasting was used to form the cutting.
From the rocky embankment the track bed stops at the private garden parameter. From here it dropped steadily above what became
Pitnappie Cutting for the new line and up to the level crossing prior to Pitnappie siding.
A retaining wall by Millhole Farm. 1(16th April 2014).
Left: End of track bed on the north side of Millhole Farm. Right Same spot looking northwards towards Hatoon Summit. (Both 17th April 2014
The next port of call south of Hatton (Millhole) is the remains of Pittnappie Goods Siding, where the loading bay is still seen. A short quarry track led from Pitnappie Quarry, below the
main road and up to the platform. The tunnel below the main road has been blocked up. The old incline trackbed was cut off from the new line just before the points for the loading Bay.
Screen grab from Google Earth of the Millhole area, showing the old and new track beds. Included is the Ex level crossing and the site of Pitnappie
siding where the two lines separated.
Site of Pitnappie siding. You can make out the shape of the goods platform. Also the spur too an from the quarry that went below the B594.
The road entrance was on the corner by the road junction to Couston.
A screen grab of the site of the level crossing by the single-Arch bridge on the Causton road, seen on the left with the deep cutting following
the tree line to the right. This is looking towards Millhole. Pitnappie siding was on the south side of this crossing, which was deserted when
the single-arch bridge was built for the new line to Newtye. The sidings is the spot where the old and new lines separated.
This is as far as this section goes for the moment but with learning about Pitnappie siding and that the deep cutting is being being cleared with
new drainage added I shall return to this area again when the opportunity arrives.
David Martin has an excellent collection of photos of the drainage work through Pitnappie cutting on at his Flicker site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/sets/72157632899189326/
SEE PAGE AUCHTERHOUSE TO NEWTYLE via Dronley (New Route) for continuation from Pitnappie Goods Site.
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This photo is out of context. I am not sure where it should go but could be the bridge on the divergence between Rosemill and Dronley.
Above would be the Templeton Road.
The Hatton incline between Millhole and Hatton in the 60's
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To conclude this section here is a phtoto of Hatton Castle
Hatton Castle. Renovated after many years of disuse
http://www.scotland.com/castles/angus-dundee/hatton/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_DxCgUWtuk Video incluHatton incline seen from he air.
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Links & Reading:
The Dundee & Newtyle Railway by Niall Ferguson. Still available from some books shops and on the Internet.
The Dundee & Newtyle (A history by Elliot Simpson)
http://www.auchterhouse.com/history/railway.htm (Includes and excellent map of the railway)
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=7762615 Excellent 'remains' photos including the Law Tunnel, Balbeuchley Incline and Dronley
http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/rail/incline/dund.htm Explains the inclines but sketches are very poor quality and almost useless.
Video Screen grabs from the The Railways Of Scotland Volume 8 "Dundee". An excellent video available on DVD, from Cinerail at: http://www.cinerail.com/cinerail/railways-of-scotland.html There are many great archive scenes of almost every
Scottish route you can think of. Well worth a look.The Cromford & High Peak Incline railway in Derbyshire has been luckier in having much of it's buildings, including an Engine House preserved. This is what could have happened, indeed, should have happened with at least one of the D&N
inclines. However, the C&H gives an excellent comparison of what the D&N would have looked like.http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/rail/incline/hop.htm
Boddam To Ellon Branch (Walks) By Bill Reid.
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