THAT "TOBACCO" EFFECT - AGAIN!!

By  B i l l  R e i d  (Area 20) 

New Member, Bill Armstrong FRPS, From Kinnoul, Perth wrote explaining that he had got the `tobacco` effect when trying some W&M, using the Club`s E6 Formula, and included a couple of frames to show the fault. As those who have been following my ventures into W&M will remember, after some excellent initial results with the Club brew, I suddenly started getting this odd result and over a year or two never quite solved the problem, while having tried numerous methods and suspecting my W&M and/or photographic equipment. Likewise, Bill says that he also suspected and has taken steps to avoid these possibilities. 

My main suspect has always been the chemical Reversal Bath, though the Colour developer was also suspected. The main puzzle has always been, that, many CRC members have, and are, using the Club`s E6 Formula with constant and excellent results, which would prove that the "Formula" is perfectly alright, and that there is something happening, outside the formula, which,under the right conditions, allows this fault to occur. I sent Bill all my findings but he has been unable to correct the fault so far.’ 

Earlier in the year I sent some sample slides to Amateur Photographers "Ask The Expert" boffins. In spite of checking each proceeding issue I managed to miss the June issue in which they gave a reply, and printed one of the slides. However while chatting to Rita Pearle on Bill`s problem, she mentioned that she had seen the article and kindly sent me the page. AP`s `expert` Keith Wilson replied and there was nothing really which we didn`t know already, i.e. A weakened reversal bath produces a shift to green. If you use the reversal bath at too high a concentration, slides will appear light and blue and that the reversal bath is simply absorbed into the emulsion with no reaction taking place until the film enters the Colour Developer. However he does add:- "One possible cause of the red effect in the shadows is low CD-3 levels. This produces a normal picture but with red shadows. If you are not using CD-3 or if your CD-3 is provided in a bulking agent which reduces its concentration, then this could be the source of the trouble. New slide films on the market require effective bleaching. Don`t use combined bleach-fixes with these films or you may get incomplete bleaching (retained sliver giving a dark high contrast slide) or incomplete fixing (retained silver halide giving high density and a milky appearance). The trick when something happens is to alter one variable at a time. You`ll find the solution by weeding out the culprit" unquote. 

The mention of "Bulk agent" leaves me with something to puzzle at! I understand what is meant but! dos this mean that some chemical suppliers are selling a chemical with `added` bulk, without telling the buyer and giving details of the amount required to gain the correct `weight`? Surely not! Any technical bod out there put some more light on this one? As virtually every CRC member who W&M`s purchase their raw chemicals from the Club`s supplies which, if a bulk-agent was being used, would surely give every member the `red` problem, but as we know, most are getting excellent results, every time, and only a few are finding this problem. 

While talking to Kevin Craske, on this issue, he explained that he had heard of bulk-agents being used, but didn`t think we would come across this in our supplies. Likewise he really didn`t suspect the CD-3, but also explained that a little while back he managed to get the `effect` when having tried to over-use a reversal bath when it should have received some `replenishment` and the fault was corrected for the next film(s) after having replenished the reversal bath!! So it seems we are still not any wiser about the true source of this annoying problem. However I am grateful for Keith Wilson`s comments and perhaps someone will have the time to try some experiments to try and solve this problem for one and for all. It has annoyed me that it has put some suspect on the CRC E6 Formulae, when we know that the majority of users get no problem what so ever and I would like to see this problem put behind us. 

Keith`s comments not to use a "BLIX" bath with `newer` films, is also a bit of a puzzle. ALL 3-Bath Kits on the market use a Blix bath, and I have never heard of any problem with these kits. Indeed, the latest Chrome-Six 3-bath kit is a vastly improved product which gives results anything as good as individual bath, brews. However I should add, that I always aerate the Blix bath, using a fish-tank air pump, as we have learned over the years that the EDTA NaFe bleach requires to be aerated to keep active. However just putting the `brew`into a bottle a little larger than  required, and giving it a good shake, should make the Blix active enough to do it`s job properly. This doesn`t appear to have any effect on the `fixer` part of the bath, considering that you wouldn`t recommend aerating a Fixer bath,onits own. 

Well, the problem still remains unsolved. In my own case I simply don`t have the time to take film  for experimental use, and for my main photography use either the Chrome-Six or Jessop`s brand name kit. If any kind CRC member would like to take this up, we would be very grateful and welcome any results you may be able to come up with.

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