pH, AND ALL THAT!  (Conclusion)

Ron Knowles.   

Q. That seems to be born out by just lunch I made up the developers and the buffers. Made one buffer from deionised water, which I got from Halfords and made the other buffer up from ‘purified’ water from Boots, both of which I think are deionised. Boots say theirs is distilled but I don’t be1ieve it, and in both cases there was a difference, initially, before I put the chemical in when I put the Borax in the one to give the lower buffer, to give a pH of 9.2. I put the Borax in and it registered 9.2.  I had previously set the pointer to 9.2 and it came back to 9.2 exactly.  And then the other one, the buffer for 11.72, the needle swung over so it indicated to me that any variation in the pH of the water, initially made no difference to the settlement figure. 

A. It shouldn’t. In fact the only thing that could cause trouble would be reflected in the CONDUCTIVITY of the water. That is the extent to which it would take an electric current. Pure water isn’t quite an insulator but very nearly it is. As soon as you put saline impurities — a trace of sa1t--water or something like that it will conduct electricity like new. But if the water is good acid free from electrolite impurities you should find it to have a very high resistance - electrical resistance. You put.two probes from-your meter into distilled water it ought to show almost open circuit. 

Q. Really? As much as that? 
A. Yes. 
Q. Fkirther on the micro-ammeter?
A. It ought to show virtually nothing. But if you put a wee spot of your buffer or a wee spot of acid in there.
Q. It will swing over?
A. Yes it will swing over.

Q. So, in actual fact what you are saying  is    what we in the Club             have all been doing and that is ignoring the pH of the distilled water initially and just putting our chemicals in to make up the buffer and that, you say, gives a reliable figure - providing the amount of chemicals is correct and is pure and so on?

A. I would think that would always work. As I say they are only tests you want. The only time you may be worried slightly is if you are using very dilute buffer solutions, and the pH of the water was smaller than the 6 or higher than 8 or 9.1 If the water was that far wrong you would have grave suspicions.

Q. Well I’ve, rarely found the water to be.  I think the water I’ve used this time to be .6.2  - 6.3.

A. That would be normal because the deionised water is still containing same carbon dioxide and that is acidic and will bring the pH down towards 6 beIow if you took some of that water and boiled it you would boil most of the carbon dioxide out and the pH ‘ought to
be near to 7.
Q. And, of course, one of the things we have to be careful about is  that when we make up a buffer, leaving it around too long it can easily take up some carbon dioxide?

A. It will certainly take up some carbon dioxide...and go on doing it if it a Borax buffer. 

Q. Yes, well that’s what I use and when  I make up my buffer I do my tests more or  less straight away before it has a chance to, for. when. I’ve had it standing by and then done the test again, and done the re~registeration of the machine, it’s always going back a point or two.
.A. Well..no, I think there is something curious there....
Q Well, it might have taken a little bit of carry-over, shall we say, in. the water from the cleaning of  probes.
A. Yes The amount of carbon dioxide it would take up is comparitively small but slow but inevitably if left open in the same sense.
Q. Blowing through a  straw into it...that would: do quite a lot, wouldn’t it?
.A. Yes, If you left an ordinary solution open some of the water would slowley evaporate -well it’s rather a stagnent condition in an un—stoppered bottle and so,. it’s going to take some time for things to happen - it s going to be slow.
Q, Well, I think you’ve answered the points of my colleagues in the Club wanted to know, but I wanted officia1 confirmation of what I thought was the situation and now you’ve given it. Thank you very much.

So there are the views of three eminent chemical bods and the information should be of immense value to the members of the C.R.C who Weigh &mix. I must confess their findings are much less complicated than I have always feared and, the formerly mysteries of pH values much more clear.  

Quite obviously, from the information given, it now becomes understandable why the commercial processing kits fail to specify  what water to use when diluting their near saturated solutions. Providing they get the pH right it will STAY right when made up to working strength. 

I must. say I am VERY surprised to be tolled that PURE water, though not quite and electricity insulator, VERY NEARLY IT IS. Bet that comes as a surprise-surprise, to very nearly everyone of you. But that’s what the man said. 

Without labouring the point of pH and water too much more I must mention that there is a filtration jug available from health stores which using ordinary tap-water poured in at the top, comes out with most of the impurities gone and I have measured the out going liquid at pH 6.6. Quite near enough to give a suitable base for buffer chemicals to be added to bring the reading to either our usual 9.2 or 11.72. But I don’t advise it to be used for ordinary drinking water purposes as the more alkaline water is preferable from a health point of view, Or so we are assured.

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