pH, AND ALL THAT! 

Ron Knowles. 

Recent~ information from severa1 sources provides valuable and obviously authentic insight into water, distilled and de-ionised included, in relation to its use in combination with chemicals to give a predetermined pH value In short a buffer solution of known value by the dedicated “weigher & mixer” this will not be just of interest but, equally of vital importance Particularly so for those amongst us who are sufficiently interested and dedicated to test various alternative formulae and probably different emulsions as well For, in this way, the path could well be cleared for those not having a pH meter, by eventually providing a solution - in particular a colour developer which will give a suitable pH value after the intitial mix-up without the need to adjust the value in either direction 

.After listing his  experiences with various water supplies ~ from tap water (the pH value of which can vary considerably from day today) ‘fridge water!. (thawed from the ice when defrosting) deionised, and distilled,. Oliver Barron in his (Area 20 Newsletter quotes some highly teqhnica1 information. for C.R.C. member Geoff Webb. Geoff at one time had responsibility for two separate carbonising complexesone of. Which was provided piped ‘pure’ water from a deionised plant and the other with similar water ‘from a distillation plant. The ion exchange plant consisted of a number of ion exchange resin beds through which, water was passed, producing a finished product much superior to that from the real still. Real distilled water is a deceiver, the quality of which is rarely quoted. and always suspect. The deception arises from the apparent fundamental simplicity of the process. Boil the water and leave the dissolved solids behind. This theoretical state can only exist if ALL the H20 can be in the gaseous state when it passes to the condenser. Unforfortunate1y it. is invariably in the wet steam state - a vapour - containing a goodly proportion of tiny water droplets which still contain undissolved solids arid therefore adulterate the purity of. the product. 

You will gather from the foregoing that I would always prefer a reputable (Boots’?) de-mineralised water to an un-named distilled product. BDH do not list distilled water as such. They list water “Analar” a laboratory reagent of quoted standard purity. They also quote a pH range of 5.5 to 7 5 as acceptable due to the readiness with which water dissolves C02 from the air. I recall that samples of water from the demin. plant product stream for quality control  purposes could give an unacceptable pH reading if shaken with air in a half-filled bottle. May I suggest you confuse the issue further by boiling a sample of your water(s), in glass if possible, to drive of the CO2, measure the pH and then blow your exhaled breath into the sample through a straw and measure again 

In his following Newsletter Oliver quotes from a letter on the same theme from Alan Goldman. Alan says, in the laboratory. in which he worked they “polished” distilled water by passing it through a deioniser column. So both Geoff and 4lan prefer the deionised variety. final quote from Alan. The pH of the production both cases is dependant on the starting pH of the raw water and confusion arises from the belief that the pH is neutral. From this you can see that you can use either source, distilled or deionised, as long as you adjust the pH. Personally I have always used tap water with no problems. A further point to note is that all water on standing in an unsealed container absorbs carbon dioxide from the air and becomes more acid over a period of, say, 12 hours”. 

From Tony Chuter, a member of Area 18, comes a taped interview on the same topic, with a friend whose name I cant recall, other than his first name which is Ernie - but who is the retired principle of the chemistry dept. of Southampton, University. I quote from the tape verbatim in question arid answer form - the questions obviously coming from Tony. 

Q. You were saying that.a pH.of distilled or deionised will vary. I asked were it’s possible or reasonable to bring the pH back to pH 7 if you wanted to. Would you mind telling me again what you said about it?

A.    The position is that in water itself there is only a very small amount of impurities if it is distilled, and it is very un-buffered which means that only a miner amount’ of acid or alkali is sufficient to move ‘the. pH quite a lot. Having said that one ought. to realise that the other chemicals you put in are going to produce a pH of themselves and they will SWAMP anything that is in the water. Anything that is in the water which might take the pH a unit either way of pH 7. forget it If you try to calculate how much acid or alkali you put in you would probably have to take & thousanth of one per cent of caustic soda and then take a tiny pin-prick  of that and that would be sufficient to send the pH up to 8 from 7.

 

Water, Ph and all that (two) Editorial CRCMain

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